As with all Scale75 paints, you need to punch the dropper canal with a pointed tool before the paint can be released. the basecoat is not consistent (some areas are shining other matt others look sandy) plus it clogs all the details and a lot of time i found with un-primed areas. Tutorial: How to paint Black Templars Crusader Squads, ToP Tip: Visual comparison of all 61 Contrast, 23 Xpress Colors, 23 Speedpaints & 24 Dipping Inks, Tutorial: How to paint Death Guard Plague Marines, Review: Kill Team: Into the Dark Part 1: Terrain & rules, Review: Chaos Warriors, Chaos Knights & Exalted Hero of Chaos, WIP: Blood Angel Tactical Marines and Terminators, WIP: Dark Angel Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought, Showcase: Stormcast Eternals Knight-Azyros, Tutorial: How to paint Balin the Dwarf from the Hobbit, Showcase: Finished Necron Annihilation Barge, A lot of muted and tertiary colours you won't find anywhere else, Pigment based formula allows for interesting effects, like glazing or washing over dark primers and basecoats, Opacity and consistency feels more like washes, Not as intense as Contrast in one coat application, Some colours are so pale that they only work on pure white. As noted, you don't need to completely cover the model. You can see the difference in the comparison image above. Some assumptions: 1 i've used cheap synthetic brush 2 i've put 3 drops of each on wet pallet 3 no dilution 4 paint at normal pace but without too much care. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Vallejo Model Color: Scale 75: Army Painter: Hex Code : White Scar: Skull White* White (101) Dead White (001) White (951) White Matt: Matt White (WP1102) FFFFFF : Ceramite White: Smelly Primer* Grey Primer (141) White Primer (002) Foundation White (919) FFFFFF : Kislev flesh: Pallid Flesh* Flesh (213) Pale Flesh (003) Light Flesh (928) Short story, they are very good paints and taking the European scene by storm judged by my talks with the euro painters. It certainly wont be as much as I had, t'was getting ridiculousThere is probably 4 or so of my favourite RMS triads that I will be re-acquiring and I'm thinking of Scale75 sets for the balance and I'm wondering just what the deal is with scale75 paints (ie on balance are impressions favourable) and has anyone mixed and matched the S75's with Reaper paints.Oh and I have a few P3's which haven't been opened, any opinions on these. Defintiely check em out. 3rd in my aresenal is Vallejo. My "first batch" SC75s are gel-like in consistency (some of them) and do not "flow" off the brush with dilluted with just water. None of which I need. They are good for minis also, and cost a lot less than miniature primers.As I don't have a place to air brush, I have tried quite a few rattle can primers. I also particularly like the very unique colour palette with the many muted and tertiary hues. The pigments will gather and settle in the recesses, drying opaque, which can come in handy for creating rust and dirt, and even some basic glow effects. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Powered by Invision Community. Mixing, as with any acrylic base paints, is fine. I bet you can get spray paint primers used for cars in Dubai. ( 8) According to provided conversion chart, This table has been compiled using data from the following sources: There is Holy Charm, a white primer, Bone Charm, a light bone-coloured primer (similar to Wraithbone), and Ice Charm, a light grey primer (similar to Greyseer). I don't notice much difference from the way my Vallejo paints behave other than the Scalecolour is more matte than Modelcolour. (****) P3 Paints did not really match very closely with the old GW range, but a detailed explanation of each paint can be found here: (*****) GW's new range matches with the old range are the matches claimed by GW. I am curious if the 75's will mix (wet) with RMS and the few Vallejo and Citadel pots I have left Willem, is this what you were referring to? Like others have said, Scale 75 are great. Then why not support Tale of Painters by using our links for your next hobby purchases: Wayland Games,Element Games, Firestorm Games, ebay, and Amazon. Vallejo Metal color "White Aluminium" 77.706 Vallejo, Aircraft Scale Modelling, Aircraft Scale ModellingPaint, Vallejo Metal Colour is a range of 18 water-based metallic colours, especially designed for airbrushing. (*) discontinued,(**) approximate,(***) coat d'arms match the OLD citadel colours so there might be some difference. Still, I can only give them 7.5 points overall, simply because they don't deliver 100% on their promise. Pasted as rich text. ( 2) approximate, (***) coat d'arms match the OLD citadel colours so there might be some difference. Vallejos are much, much, more forgiving to work with than the Scale 75 paints. The Army Painter will soon release Speedpaints, and last year Scale75 funded their one coat paint via Kickstarter. Still, I'm going to expand my Instant Color collection. There is something about an alcohol-based formula that produces a metallic finish that is bright and magnificent. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Scale 75 is yet another company focused on miniatures & models. Citadel Contrast is a controversial product: some love it, others dont get it. I am going to buy a colour set to paint mid war panzers and is looking for opinion on the makers above. The paints come in 17 ml bottles (1 ml less than Contrast) with included agitator balls to improve blending, and a welcome dropper cap. Be VERY AWARE, the 2 lines, Scale Color and Fantasy and Game, have different formulas, so how you thin the Color (Which is thick) is not what you use on the F&G. The highest scoring match had 4 goals and the lowest scoring match 0 goals. I can't find any comparison charts or swatches with Scale 75 vs, Scale 75 Paint Comparison vs Citadel and Vallejo. Your support will help us cover our monthly costs and fund future projects so we can bring you more and better content. However, many of the paints do not match very closely at all and some mixing will be required to get close to the original colours. Whoosh! Hi all, i've just received the Scale75 black primer and Vallejo Light grey primer. The range comprises 48 colours in 17 ml dropper bottles, a 60 ml acrylic medium, three primers available in 60 ml bottles for airbrushing, as well as 150 ml and 400 ml spray cans (though I havent seen those in the wild yet. Thank you very much! It depends, If the primarily use of the paints is airbrushing, it doesn't really matter, you thin the paints down to milk consistency and then you shoot it out of an airbrush straight away barely giving them time to separate, and they all are pretty good airbrush paints as far as I have used them, advantage with Vallejo air range is that they need very little thinning if any at all for airbrushing. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. As the title says, my google fu has failed me. Dunno about Scale75 panzer colors, but I own the Flesh paint set - which is great for skin tones and clothing, because it is absolutly lusterless. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. : https://amzn.to/2I8WBfXCaja basica de Guardia de la noche! Anyone have knowledge on what the closes to these are. I've been using the Vallejo primers for a few years without problems. Both flow improver and matte medium are designed to prevent the kind of separation Harrek is talking about. I know its probably unlikely to have a 100% match. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. A single coat of Instant Color is less intense than a Contrast Colour of a similar shade. http://www.wargamesfoundry.com - also do a range of similar to Citadel paints, will update when can get chance. Not to mention that Citadel paints are on the expensive side for what you get and the fact that I've lost my fair share of paints to improperly sealed lids, etc. However, many of the paints do not match very closely at all and some mixing will be required to get close to the original colours. do you think the brush can play a role? less cover. Review: The 25 new Citadel Contrast Colours. Compare. .. You've been answered already but yes, they mix well of course with anything else acrylic (TBH, I have never run into any issues of mixing within acrylic brands so the question is odd for me). No brush strokes, nice even coverage, great matt finish. I have an air brush and generally only buy Vallejo Game Air paints now, I have about 30 or so now. Haven't tried the P3 or Scale75 non-metallic paints at any length, using a variety (RMS, Ral Partha, Vallejo, Armory, whatever for those. Entre la historia y la leyenda. Just the other day I mixed Scale 75 Pure white with Reaper MSP Snow Shadow and it worked very well. The specular highlight was already well defined before and this just makes it brighter and more focused. Very good bottle so far no complains Vallejo after the shake the paint has very micro bubbles. So it all boils down to your paint style since they behave a bit different. Sign up for a new account in our community. Love them both. Thank you for the fast reply! Think of Technical paint Nihilakh Oxide, which has a quite similar formula as Instant Colors. I've got most of both ranges, and use each for certain things. (color name) after testing does not match GW color (really far) paint pig, Support our work by using the affiliate links from our /partner stores for your next hobby purchases so we can continue to bring you fantastic FREE content every day: Thanks a lot, we appreciate any help to continue and grow Tale of Painters . i've tried so far 2 primers but the real issue here is the hot/humidity of the country that is not giving me good results. 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I do really like how Vallejo have a comprehensive set/system of everything though, that appeals to the collector in me! They all go on like silk absolutely incredible. Then I discovered Scale 75. Scale 75 doesn't come with any metallics. Part of the paint is lost in the cap due to the strange tip of the drip bottle. It's easy! Scale 75: Fallen Frontiers - Diane Tianseen Bust. The primers are available in 60 ml bottles for airbrushing. $68.00. I even did two video reviews of them comparing to RMS and Vallejo back when nobody knew them well. Once you mix in the additives, it might be very similar to their own thinning formula. Looking for pre-orders? SCALE 75 es el reflejo de una particular. visible brush strokes. Imprimacin vallejo: https://amzn.to/2DfDRbr Imprimacin blanca citadel: https://amzn.to/2D9CUl6TIENDA EN AMAZON CON TODO LO QUE UTILIZO!! Metallics are fluid like that as well. Did you like this post? Where can I go wrong?). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Scale75 is way easier to paint on. http://cdn.acrylicosvallejo.com/0049261608364909a238add9b4a53745/CC073-rev05.pdf has an equivalency chart for Vallejo Game Colour, Vallejo Model Colour and Reaper Master Series paints to the new Citadel paint line. The vallejo metal colour line is supposed to be exceptional in terms of metal acrylics. Part of the paint is lost in the cap due to the strange tip of the drip bottle. 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My Citadel are too old and used to be worth selling and I do use them sometimes. Only use Glaze Medium for creating washes and glazes. http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/media/e588d28183cec31ffd6dcee6d3718fc3.cms/equivalencias-rev05.pdf . less cover. and checking in on some other opinions across the Internet suggests the same. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. I use wet and dry pallets but living in a relatively hot climate wet is my preferred option. If you are trying to match old GW with new GW, you'd be better just getting Vallejo game color or coat d'arms for the closest match ), ) after testing does not match GW color (really far), (******) 98-99% colour matches, colour difference is so minute it's very difficult to tell the difference when painting models side by side, (*******) 3rd-5th Edition Replicas, same 98-99% matching criteria, http://www.brushthralls.com/pre-painting-prep/color-theory-10p3.html. I've heard Scale 75 is a bit harder to use and is actually harder to base coat with, which is surprisingly because the paints are quite thick. Have you tried just plain water? For metallics i would Look at Vallejo Metal Colors. I have just been unloading practically all (about 95%) of my paints, load of barely used GW foundation, Vallejo Model and Game Colour and a near complete set of Reaper Master Series which have been my mainstay for 12 years (and have heartily recommended). If you're layerer or wet blender it doesn't matter that much since you don't thin them as much as you do when glazing. Well I have ordered the full 63 bottle set, selected gold and white metallics from Scale75 and I will pick up the full copper set and Doom (?) ( 4) Most P3 Paints do not match closely with the old GW range, but a detailed explanation of each paint can be found here: http://www.brushthralls.com/pre-painting-prep/color-theory-10p3.html Here is the ultimate painting matrix, comparing the games workshop Citadel paints with every known equivalent. AK or Ammo, which are mostly the same in handling with some tonal variations between each other. If you intend to primarily use them with paintbrush, then its a matter of painting style. I'd say that Scale 75 flats and the Vallejo model colours works fine with layering since they are relatively (the others) much thicker and therefore you have a wider span of consistency to choose from when thinning them. The Citadel paints are generally fine, but I started airbrushing and was not satisfied with the pot design. Army Painter primers were the worst. $49.00. David Johnston (Brother Argos) and the Bolter and Chainsword Separation seems to be the most common complaint, is this going to be a problem with a wet pallet? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. If anyone is able to find one that can cross-reference with all the major brands, please let me know! Avoid gesso. If you're a glazer and/or a wet palette user, I'd stay away from Vallejo paints, because they separate so quickly and heavily. So, that is pretty much what I'm going for with my paints. I've used metallic Scale 75 paints, and they also separate too much for convenient glazing and "wet paletting", haven't used the Scale 75 flat colours much for glazing. Cookie Notice Once I purchased a bottle of their thinner they were great. If you compare the price with washes like the Citadel Shades (24 ml for 6.30 euros) or the washes from The Army Painter (18 ml for 3.20 euros), Instant Colors come off a little less well, but I still think the price is reasonable. You can handle it, but it is not as trouble free as AK or Ammo. It also takes a few day to cure. I'd say get a bottle of each and play with them according to how you usually paint and see which one please you the most before deciding on what whole range to buy. You can handle it, but it is not as trouble free as AK or Ammo. Add To Cart. As i can't find any decent spray primer here in dubai i've decide to use paint on primer. (+ full paint First attempt at NMM any Tips to improve? Want to find the equivalent paint in a different range? Display as a link instead, So, back to the question, if I was to go out now and buy a complete box set of a paint set/range of 100+ paints, what range would get your vote? Corvus Cabal Shrike Talon from Warhammer Warcry. Herrick Games sends out a semi-regular newsletter detailing some of the newest product offerings and making you aware of new discounts and our always low prices! I also add agitators in the bottles to help, they are pretty thick but worth the extra effort in the end. Scale75 cobalt Alchemy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By The actual priming functionality is right there, to provide a solid traction for the paint, and it's so fine that it won't clog any details.I actually have to spray a whole lot to have any paint coverage, but the primed surface is great. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. It is not easy to pass judgement on Instant Colors. Is there something that would make Vallejo a better choice? https://shop.instarpaint.com So it all boils down to your paint style since they behave a bit different. VMA Steel Blue/Metallic Medium Mix. primer / spray are very not so common here. As a "one coat painting solution" Contrast simply works better. My thoughts so far: Scale 75 would give me fewer paints at a higher price point. Not really an issue for me as I'm a patient painter. I've had very good results with Army Painter recently, particularly the red for my Blood Angels, so I've been picking those up too. Painters of all skill levels are welcome! https://redgrimm.github.io/paint-conversion/p3.html Csar Vallejo have scored an average of 1 goals per game and Sport Huancayo has scored 1 goals per game. I use Scale75 and P3 for most of my metallics these days. Workshop Wednesdays: Airbrush Paints - Scale75 with CK Studios The Hobby Hangout 2.1K views Streamed 4 years ago Everyday Home Repairs 2M views 3 months ago Vallejo Acrylic Metal Color, Airbrush. I've also read that Scale75 paints are pretty amazing, particularly the inks. I have no problems with mixing Scale and reaper paints. No extra costs for you and up to 20% discount on Warhammer products! For more information, please see our https://www.am. https://convertingcolors.com/rgb-color-84_119_87.html. Both paints have a hard time with flat surfaces like power armour and dry quite blotchy without further thinning. I'm not sure I get the appeal. Also the relatively slow separation of GW paints make them suitable for wet palette and glazing too. Aka: Just like the real deal of midwar panzers in regard of tonal variations. I tend to mix colours and hence brands and you have cleared up the two brands that I will be mixing most often. Autumn Dragon finally done after about 50hrs of work. AK or Ammo, which are mostly the same in handling with some tonal variations between each other. With a recommended retail price of 3.90 for 17 ml, the single colours of Instant Colors are significantly cheaper than Citadel Contrast, which has an RRP of 6.30 for 18ml. Distribution into the US is good now (I think) and because of their quality, they can compete in fair terms with any other paints. I've brushed on the vallejo primer and works just fine. So I looked around for a bit, tried a bit from a few other ranges, and I was settled on Vallejo Game Color. http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=List_Models&code=300952&orignav=300810 Dunno about Scale75 panzer colors . The nice thing about the Golden paints is that they're pure-pigment artist colors, so they're quite saturated if unmixed. GorlakJune 25, 2017 in + GENERAL PCA QUESTIONS +. Unable to find a paint that you used to use? Some colours, like Phoenix Egg, are so pale that you can barely see the effect over anything other than pure white. They are not the normal Vallejo metals they are their own thing. By But the water separates from the paint quickly with the Scale75 for me always for some reason. There are also multiple paint sets to choose from. Scale 75: Chronicles of Run - Thenidiel, Rapture of the Forest. I use them almost exclusively.(I have the whole line, less the 2 new WWII German camo sets.). Similar to Nihilakh Oxide or the Antithesis paints by Warcolour, they behave more like highly diluted acrylic paints. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. Add To Cart. But after looking at the Vallejo GC basic set, a lot of the "paints" are special effects, inks, or varnishes. So I finally gave in and picked some up. Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. No adverts like this in the forums anymore. We are always looking for new and interesting ideas. They also have a more satin finish, which helps them take washes easier. Similar to Citadel Contrast, the paints are designed to be a one-coat painting solution that creates basecoat, shading and highlights with a single application. 10000+ 10000+ 8500+ 3000+ 8000+ He transitioned from Lego to Games Workshop models at the tender age of 11 and didn't look back ever since.
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