shanann watts first marriage

Shanann was on board with getting pregnant as this would calm the household down, giving them something to look forward to, and keep him in a marriage that was sucking the life out of him. And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. I dont think the affair and murder had to do with being spineless as I believe he was always capable of this he just never had the gull to stand up for himself before (I mean that loosely and sarcastically)by that I mean that he disengaged and went with the fun new model that also slightly resembled his wife. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. If so, nice of him not to say so. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. Chris told Shanann he wanted a divorce a few hours later. He seems more of a background you and me conquer the world type of dreamer that dates women that are into the same kinksI truly think that is what it was (lust and disillusion) and once you get a taste of someone that flips that switch so to speak it is VERY hard to turn that off. Then he met and married Shannan and did whatever she told him to do. After all, it's not hard to see why people thought that. During the welfare check, the police officer inspected the house but there were no signs of Shanann and her daughters. Think before you speak. On Nov. 6, Watts pleaded guilty to the nine charges he faced, including five counts of first-degree murder. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. A lot of people seem to side with Shanann because shes the victim. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. He wants out but. You have some real writing talent. Shanann Watts' First Marriage The opening 10 minutes of American Murder features social media footage of Shanann explaining her life story. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. That is never a good sign. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. The YT video I watched as referenced above has a few parts to it that are quite informative and have helped me to fully understand both sides of this marriageand actually if you ask me, there were more than twothere were 4 CW, SW, NK and his parents (mom) were all involved in the marriage I think there were multiple influences and opinions that were making things toxic on both ends. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. Another type of family killer to look at would be DISAPPOINTED KILLERS or people who believe they have been let down by those around themmostly their partner and children. Didnt she say somewhere that Chris is the one who thought a third child, hoping for a boy, would help their marriage and then she mentions to people that he now thinks Bella and Celeste are enough? She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. According to their bankruptcy documents, they made a combined $100,000 and had a mortgage payment of $3,000 per month on their $400,000 home. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! I couldnt imagine a better man for us. The Watts Family Murders became a talk of many talks and news shows; episodes of ABC News television news magazine 20/20, American talk show Dr. Phil, and The Dr. Oz Show featured the story of the massacre. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. Later, Chris confessed to murdering Shanann and his daughters. Amy Miller, executive director of Violence Free Colorado, said people who are being abused by an intimate partner often behave in ways that seem counterintuitive to those around them. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! That is where the Psychology comes into questionForensically/Criminally, Behaviorally and otherwise. You spoil us with love an attention! Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. She did her schooling from Pinecrest High School in Southern Pines. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. . I think ur right with all this. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. And they were his children too, not just shannons. Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said social media allows for individuals to project a moment in time, versus the realities of their lives. He seemed very distracted and disengaged. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. Later, Chris took Shananns body into the back of his work truck and also took his two daughters to the oil-storage site, where he first buried Shanann and then strangled both his daughters with a blanket and disposed of them in the oil tanks. Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. August 22, 2018 / 3:26 PM / CBS Colorado. It was a part of his responsibility. It seemed choreographed. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. I think she went off of what others told her about CW and what she saw for herselfher implying judgement on him, belittling his character, controlling, making off-hand commentsa lot of that is part of her character, she was outgoing, sarcastic and opinionated, that isnt always bad. Im sure not uncommon for cheaters. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. I think she emasculated Chris. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. She started working as a human resource specialist at Childrens Hospital Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, Aurora in 2013. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. In July, Chris flew to North Carolina to meet up with his family. We also know there was a lot of anger and bitterness, especially from Shananns side, over Nut Gate. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. Hes a fucking psychopath. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. 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Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . Both native to North Carolina, they married in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina in 2012. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. The murder of Shanann Watts and her children has reentered the public consciousness thanks to Netflix. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. Before drilling further into this question, we need to be clear about the difference between divorce and separation. Watts said he strangled Shanann in their bed after he said she told her their marriage was over and she said he would never see their children again. To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? So why take the children out too? Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. Over the summer of 2018, Chris Watts changed. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? LEONARD's current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. He seems unable to make and follow through with what he leads both Shanann and Nicole K to believe. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Now, her husband, Chris Watts, is accused of killing her and their two young girls in Frederick, Colorado. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. You spoil us with love an attention! On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . lts only one way emotions and feelings. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. I went out looking for as much information as I could, I watched a YT video from Something Criminal, S02/E02 and it narrates a good spin on the argument that CW was also creating an alternative version of his relationship with SW to his friends and family as it benefited him. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. And her house that everyone is talking about? Shanann posted videos of family drama embarrassing Chris and his family, posted at least one video saying she is the dominant one in their family, insulted Chris repeatedly saying things like he has no balls and no game, insulting him to his family and to her friends. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. That would have been apparent to me even if I was someones friend visiting them at a get together. I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. Anger, as in a simmering boil. That router article is amazing work Nick! Does anyone one have photos of it? Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. Have you ever broken up with someone and not felt bad about it? A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. He figured Ill get what I want and she has a hard time getting pregnant so it will never happen. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. Married 5 years and 9 months. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. The pair began dating and married in 2012, with Shanann quickly settling into what seemed to be her dream roles of wife and mother. People divorce and move on with their lives. Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. Words have devastating consequences. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. Shanann was too busy with her work, if you can call it that, juggling a mountain of debt, and living the high life that Chris Watts checked out of the marriage. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. He tried counseling but she wouldn't participate. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. Often that doesnt come across very popular, and some people dont like what they hear. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. They were facing financial ruin and so, to admit they werent thriving meant a further lose of income. He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. Youre right. I just thank God he took the right When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.).

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