The double-barrel is also easy to train with. catch of the Model 1882 is the patent design of Deeley & The hammer design was Editors note: This post was originally published in December of 2016. Made around 1906, this AE has lots of case colors and is tight as a vault. Also a laser and flashlight combo were added for visibility JIC. 12 Gauge (2 5/8), 32 inch nice decarbonized steel barrels with shootable bores choked modified and full. Bores are excellent. Features an under lever action that when depressed opens the breach, twin back action hammer locks, engraving which covers and extends over the hammers, action and other parts. By purchasing an antique gun from Ancestry Guns you thereby release Ancestry Guns and its employees from any and all liability associated with use of our antique firearms. Just some thoughts to consider. Off topic but just as important: why isnt the liberal press giving us, NRA/gun owners more credit for defeating Hilary? Many considered it short compared to a hunting gun at the time. Show Only Guns Sling swivel. Other This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering because they are not legally considered firearms. The hammers are not difficult to cock, and the triggers are crisp enough. Bob, That may well be true and no argument there. These antique guns are not sold in live condition. Stoeger also makes the Double Defense side-by-side shotgun in 12 and 20 gauge with 20-inch ported barrels, black synthetic furniture, and tactical features like optic and accessory rails, making for a very modern take on a defensive coach gun. It now sits ready next to my bed. Cimarron also makes slightly fancier and more expensive Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp versions of the short double barrel with various embellishments. This is a great training load. changed and is still quite tall. This new Century Arms Catamount Fury is a semi-automatic shotgun which fires the 12 gauge shell. 30" x 2 3/4" steel barreled extractor gun, two screw tang, narrow action, floating firing pins. We found it shot a great pattern at close range, as mentioned in the article. 30" barrel is missing the front sight. - SEMI PISTOL GRIP STOCK WITH REMINTON LOGO BUTTPLATE - LOP 14 1/4" - DC 1 1/2, 12 gauge, 30" fluid steel barrels choked full & full. Shooting in off hand/ weak hand, hip, etc. Dan, I thought that home invaders were pests and varmints to be controlled. Show Only Non-Guns. The Remington Model 1882 double is a strong and reliable shotgun that is in dema nd today as we do not encounter many being offered at quality gun shows. To each his own. Additionally, if youre going to spend extended time at the range or firing any kind of 3-inch magnum shells, just be aware the Hammer Coach comes with an old-school steel buttplate. P3000 Freedom Series Defense Pump Shotgun, P3000 Freedom Series Supreme Pump Shotgun, Coach Gun/ Double Defense Manual (237.75 KB). External hammers make sense for less experienced shooters and for loaded storage. This is a fun to shoot, we recommend that you use ammo from a re-loader that loads to 19th century specifications. The, Rare Remington Arms - 10 GA Damacus Barrel Barrel: 32" Bore: Fair LOP: 14" SN: 104328, Early narrow action gun with 30x2 3/4" heavy damascus barrels, bores clean and bright as honed, L .740/.698 F R.740/702 F (lug marked 48 and 53). I also wished Id thought to scrounge up some paper-hulled shells to go with it. In 1882, E. Remington & Sons discontinued production of The Triple Threat is the abbreviated version of the Triple Crown shotgun with 18.5-inch barrels. REMINGTON MODEL 1894 EE GRADE SHOTGUN GI#: 102148833 30 inch ordinance steel barrels. I prefer #4 Buck in 12 gauge loads for self defense.#3 Buck in 20 gauge will do the jobCenter Mass hits at 15-20 yards/meters should stop and take the fight out of the Bad Guy. How can I purchase back issues As a result, America is awash in old Remington Model 11 sporting shotguns. A 10 1/4-11 1/2 AR based carbine, such as a Colt Commando, XM177 or 607 is even better. You can reload without taking the weapon out of the fight. Handles 3", 2 3/4" and shorty shells (w/OPsol mini shell adaptor). The Grade 6 that is illustrated is the only one known at this time. Charles Daily Coach Gun. This article was good food for thought and hopefully will help folks make good decisions. WELLS FARGO Marked Antique REMINGTON Shotgun. The pump shotgun and the self-loader are more complex, more expensive and more difficult to train with. The 12-gauge hits hard and may be your choice. The double-barrel is also fun to shoot. Choked Full and Mod. Probably manufactured between 1874 and 1878. When Daly introduced its triple-barrel break action shotguns a few years ago, there were a lot of sneers and jokes, until people started shooting them. Even in a short barrel double or pump its not out the wading yet and acts like a minimal penetrating frangible slug. Simply break open the action and load the shells then close the action. Very good points in the article, and certainly a SxS double is more compact than a pump, especially if you can find an 18 one. With the open-choke barrels of the coach gun, 15 yards is the limit for retaining a good pattern for best effect, which isnt different from the average riot gun. Add to wishlist. of 1875). This item has some minor scratches and surface rust residue on the barrel and some scratches on the stock. While nostalgia has often drawn me to the acquisition of firearms, and the old side-by-side external hammer shotgun has certainly done so (to the tune of having a few in my collection), for real life tactical applications I much prefer the pump shotgun. Remington Model 1900 KED Grade 12 ga with 30 nitro proved Damascus steel barrels bored full & modified mint bores. This coach gun was at times called the blunderbuss. And yes my state allows you to chase them down outside and shoot them. I love single action revolvers, have double action 38 for bedside, and the coach gun in the closet. ATTENTION: Please be aware of online merchants impersonating as direct Stoeger retailers. It allows me to get off two very powerful shots very quickly; much the same way an African double rifle allows professional hunters to dispatch the most dangerous of African game when it gets up close and personal. Ready?! Pale Horse, some people have seen waaaay too much Hollywood. 1 Image (s) Cylinder bore on both. practical reason for the fences. We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. But then again not everyone can afford or has one, OR CAN GET ONE. (06130) This is a new CZ Hammer Coach side-by-side shotgun chambered in 12g. From the fields and waterways of America, to the front lines of law enforcement, Remington shotguns continue to lead the way for the American way of life. A lighter load first and then buckshot for problems inside the home. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({ While it shoots great, the best aspect of this shotgun is the feel and the nostalgia. Many years before the type was used in the Old West, the coach gun was used to guard European coaches from dangerous highwaymen. Please see our. Over the following years, coach guns would be both bought and made by people in all walks of life. Of course, their use wasnt limited to stagecoaches. The audible racking of a pump is probably overrated, because you are likely to do it before the bad guy is close enough to hear it. A word of warning, however: The Hammer Coach has tight tolerances, which is a good thing. Available in both the hard-hitting 12-gauge and the light-kicking 20, I elected for the 20-gauge so everyone in the home could use the shotgun well. Condition is good but has a scratched stock Pre-Owned - Remington 12 Gauge Shotgun Action: Side by Side Barrel: 28" Chopper Lump Capacity: Rare grade 3 gun w very low SN (160) with a good amount of nicely done scroll engraving and fine 30" damascus barrels w 2 3/4" chambers. Shotgun is equipped with ejectors. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2020 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Just dont forget to cock them. Doc Holliday. My home defense is #3 buckshot in 20 ga in a shortened but vent rib Mossberg. The guns of the Civil war were certainly effective. Many companies would offer their double-barrel models from the factory with 12- to 24-inch barrels. It might be better to purchase a 20ga coach gun to lesson the recoil and Im sure #2 or #3 buckshot in 20ga, especially in the home would handle any man or dog or animal with zero problems. As a five shot double action revolving shoulder weapon, one can put a number of bursts on a target at in-house distances that will definitely put the hurt on a bad guy in short order. My 500 with 20 bbl patterns the same. Checkered splinter foend and pistol grip buttstock ending wit, #P138XXX 30" ORDINANCE STEEL BARRELS MOD AND MOD 2 1/2" CHAMBERS REBLUED BARRELS OTHERWISE ORIGINAL DOUBLE TRIGGERS EJECTORS SPLINTER FOREARM PISTOL GRIP 7LBS 7 OZ 2 3/8 DAH 1, This Remington 1894 BED grade is very good condition. The gun didnt do great on clays, but I can attribute that almost entirely to the shooter, not the gun. REMINGTON SHOTGUNS. Remington & Sons continued to use percussion fences on Remington Shotguns The term originated in the 1858 when Wells Fargo & Co. messengers were outfitted with short Ithaca shotguns to guard stagecoach shipments along the lawless 2,800-mile route from Tipton, Missouri to San Francisco. It has a 24" vent rib barrel and matte black finish. I strongly suggest shooting at 30 inch square paper to find out just what the spread is. This 1889 has 20" barrels. From the images of old west guards riding shotgun on a stagecoach to the modern hammer-fired double, the double-barrel has an unmistakable image and the threat of a double-charge of buckshot. When it does, I always ask the question..Would you be willing to stand in front of the gun when it fires such a load? That usually puts the argument to rest. Pistol grip walnut stocks 14 LOP. It insures proper hand placement installs confidence eliminates grip torque and allows for tighter arrow groups. Compare. The new double shotgun still contained the Rubber butt pad. Its the kind of gun that could make someone get into Cowboy Action Shooting, and its the exact kind of gun those shooters seek. Size of shot pattern for birdshot to buck shot no more than a quater under 15; so even #7 1/2 is effective man killer at in home defensive range. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Possibly due to manufacturing costs or lack of sales, E. Remington & Sons decided to drop those rare types of double guns. I have found with my 20 870 (deer barrel, rifle sights) that the IC choke gives good buckshot patterns and excellent slug accuracy. . Using these barrel codes to date a shotgun is somewhat unreliable, as shotgun barrels are often interchanged at random. Flat rib,strong clear damascus pattern after touch-up. Among a few high-tech variants in 20-gauge slugs, this loading offers formidable effect at ranges longer than 25 yards. What works in the movies, does not work in real life. They accompany me where I go. But this is just my opinion. I also have a Stoger IGA Coachgun in 12ga for home defense. Because of that arrangement a Manufacturer: CZ-USA Model: CZ Hammer Classic - Side by Side SKU: 06131 Gauge: 12 GA, 3" Chamber Capacity: 2 Rounds Barrel Length: 30" 8mm Flat Rib, Gloss Black Chro .Click for more info Seller: Elk County Ammo and Arms Area Code: 814 $999.99 Taylor's & Co. Pedersoli Wyatt Earp 12 Gauge 20" Shotgun 210113 GI#: 102162659 One does NOT become competent or capable by purchasing or owning ANY firearm..or with any firearm they never practice with under various conditions. Then you will KNOW. What is Geocaching? Smith & Wesson M&P 5.7 Packs 22+1 Rounds of Firepower! Stage Coach Shotgun with Wells Fargo Badge. Try it with the 410 in a judge and it will scare you how bad an idea this is. 's blog. }); Besides, if two loads of buck doesnt get you to cover for a quick reload youve stood there too long and if I need a force equalizer, Id go with my Saiga 12 with drum. Apr 26, 2015 Just for info, it appears all the Remington serial number prefixes and suffixes are history. of the RSA Journal? My double barrel has few parts, is impossible to jam, needs no safety and shows me whats in the chamber every two shots. This double barrel shotgun was cut to a handier length for use as a stagecoach gun, like those Wells Fargo might have employed on their routes to defend against bandits and other ne'er-do-wells. shotgun: Notice that in the early Remington catalogs the Grade 3 is noted to be engraved and contains Laminated Steel barrels. There is nothing simpler than the hammer-fired double-barrel shotgun, save a single-shot shotgun. It is politically correct and legal where other types of long guns are not. They arent well suited for tactical use by special teams, but for home defensedouble-barrels, particularly short-barrel coach guns, are ideal. I havent really used a double but my short same length barrel pump i normally keep a couple round of #6 followed by a round or 2 #4 buck shot( which i used as my load in law enforcement more pellets same power) with the last round being a slug because by that time your probably shooting outside. I have several Mossys in 20 ga excellent inexpensive insurance. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. At near contact range, he fired one round of 12 gauge (paper) 2 1/2 #7 1/2 shot. To be honest the difference to the BAD GUYs is going to be marginal at best and the Bad Guy(s) will never know the difference. No FFL, C&R or any license is required to posses, transport, sell or trade Antique guns. The Mission of Cheaper Than Dirt! Ancestry Guns considers all of our antique firearms as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The Model 1873 was the first double-barrel, breech-loading shotgun produced by E. Remington & Sons and first appeared in the fall of 1873. Especially now that Schumer is top Dem in Senate. That said the the image of a side by side should make any unfriendly take a step back without a word being spoken. Has auto ejectors. Thus having access to a larger capacity of rounds was one of my first choices. Specifications and prices are subject to change without notice. Very Nice Remington Model 1894 Grade BE Double Gun, Grade 1 Remington Model 1889 Double Hammer 12 GA Steel Barrel Antique, REMINGTON ARMS CO 1894 AE GRADE 16 GA. 28" F/F, Remington 1889 Hammer SXS Shotgun 12GA Stk# A836, Remington 1894 BE Damascus Partially Restored 12 gauge, Remington 1894 BE Double Barrel SXS 12Ga Stk# A892, Remington Model 1894 Double Bbl. The overall length is 37 inches, and the shotgun weighs about 7.5 pounds. The Daly Coach Gun has barrels threaded for Rem choke tubes, adding versatility to this compact, break-action shotty. As for me, a Mossberg 500 in .410, with 3 FEDERAL #4 Buck (Handgun) ammo, is my choice, Well. These were made full length to fit the shotgun barrel, and made with a threaded portion extending beyond the muzzle of the shotgun barrel and held in place by a round nut keeping it centered in the shotgun bore. I just dont see the need in the confines of my bedroom. HOME //TERMS AND CONDITIONS //PRIVACY POLICY //LEGAL INFORMATION // FAQS // CONTACT US, Antique Remington 1889 Stagecoach Shotgun Wells Fargo San Francisco California Old West 010, Antique Winchester Model 1866 Lever Action Rifle Engraved & Inscribed By Ulrichs to Descendant of Noble Spanish Family. What I was not aware of was the unease I would have over the striker design. Not eligible for payment with Paypal or Amazon. The forend LEARN MORE. Or if you want the naked hammers and full-length barrels, then the CZ Hammer Classic is sure to fit the bill with its huge, period-correct 30-inch barrels. Great article. Many years ago (late 1960s) a family friend was hunting rabbits in South Maine one sunny February day. Short is more important for handling than it is for spread. English Walnut stocks, Checkered grip and forend, Damascus Steel barrels, engraved, Superior Rubber Butt and tip. the more popular rotating top lever for opening the action Model 1882 shotguns were never offered as a combination gun or double rifle, as were early Whitmore double guns. My other edc gun is a Winchester 86 extra light in 45-70. Some years ago I bought a Spartan, 20 inch coach gun. It is a 16 Gauge Remington shotgun with 28 inch steel barrels and a 14 1/4 inch LOP over an extension and pad. Hide Brhind; Today, side-by-side shotguns themselves are fairly uncommon, only made by a handful of companies. Original Item: Only One Available. While the company offers several models with double triggers, there are none with exposed hammers. While prior to the advent of metallic cartridges, the blunderbuss and muzzle loaded side by side were known as coach guns, that term has also been carried forth to include side by side shotguns as often seen up on the boot of stagecoaches in the Old West. Pale Horse, Dark Angel, I absolutely agree. The Grade 6 that is illustrated is the only one known at this time. If roused from my slumber I will pick it up even before going for my handgun. Remington Shotguns - Merz Antique Firearms Remington Shotguns Remington Shotguns MERZ283 REMINGTON NIMSCHKE ENGRAVED 12 GAUGE SINGLE SHOT ROLLING BLOCK #1 [A] $3,775.00 MERZ240 DOCUMENTED REMINGTON SPORTSMAN 48-D 20 GAUGE SHOTGUN FROM THE ROBERT STACK COLLECTION [M] $3,995.00 R213 REMINGTON MODEL 10 E GRADE PUMP ACTION 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN [M] Ive seen people that could reload, open, drop, load, close and fan the hammers back, with machine-like speed, ready for rounds 3 and 4 almost as quickly as some of you can pump your Mossberg 500s. This is an original antique circa 1875-1880 double-barreled shotgun with original 18 inch barrels commonly known as a "coach gun". 146 1 Image (s) CZ Hammer Coach 12g 20" Shotgun NEW (06130) Gun #: 939395544 Seller: The Exchange GA Sales: 15824 $919.00 Full Details More from this Seller 1 Image (s) CZ-USA 06130 Hammer Coach 12 Gauge with 20" Gun #: 924408149 Seller: Oaklandguns GA Sales: 480 $988.81 google_ad_client: "ca-pub-5708522835464660", for the first introduction of 16 gauge. The recoil is light, and the shotgun handles quickly and gets on target fast. If you prefer a hammerless version of this excellent coach gun, CZ makes the Sharp-Tail Coach, which is basically the same shotgun, just without the rabbit ears on the receiver. When I took it to the range the first time, I found myself wishing I could have pushed through batwing doors with this little time machine of a shotgun. Nicely done. EXCELLENT DAMASCUS PATTERN ON THE BARRELS. Realistic time-worn look and working parts just like the original 1881 percussion cap design. A correspondent tells me his western police department kept double-barrel shotguns in 20-gauge until at least the 1980s, along with pump-action 20-gauge shotguns. Specifications Compared to a pump-action shotgun the double barrel is compact. BUT AGAIN PRACTICE PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE , AND MORE PRACTICE (as mentioned above) also fire and maneuver, cover and concealment WILL help you better odds of survival. E. only two, and that dimension is across the bolsters. The inserts contained their own extractors and had an index tab at the rear to insure alignment when removed and replaced. For home defense, the coach gun looks good. It comes in 12 or 20 gauge, or .410 bore with either blued steel and walnut, or in a tactical model with a black synthetic stock and Picatinny rails. Year after year, decade after decade, they withstand the test of time and conquer all rivals. on the other hand, i loved my dads MOSSBERG 12 gauge pump, with a POLLY choke, for everything else. versus Remingtonss earlier Whitmore, which was a thumblifting But otherwise , thank you for the very technical legal advice as Im sure its a benefit to us all who did plan on shooting those fleeing from us when the opportunity came. They are sold as collectors items for historical display. This includes 1 detachable magazine. frame measurements tend to be alike, whether a 10 or 12 Of the very few I have had the opportunity to examine, they are awfully heavy guns to carry afield. defender and although the appearance doesnt have the same effect as a double it has an effect as a short barrel shotgun and the racking of the slide to chamber a round is unmistakable and a very effective psychological tool. 12 gauge was stronger than his faith in a pump shotgun.always 2only drawbackno ejectorsused extractorsbut repeat always 2. Its simple, with practice you get good at what you use. My personal Century Arms double-barrel was ordered in 20-gauge. They are both opportunistic scavengers and cowards unless traveling in packs.That said I am looking into getting another double barrel because the varmints arent impressed with the sound of the racking slide.Enjoyed the article, it covered all the pros of the Double and reminded me how much I miss mine. Also, firearms are deadly weapons if you arent mentally and emotionally prepared to kill the intruder, dont bring a gun. The company saw fit to arm its messengers with what would become known as messenger guns and coach guns. & Sons for its use. Thus making their own coach guns. He was kicking a blowdown (fallen tree) and instead of a rabbit, up pops a bear. This shotgun features 3" chambers, fixed cylinder chokes, Turkish Walnut/pistol grip stock, 14.5" LOP, CZ-USA 06130 Hammer Coach 12 Gauge with 20" Black Chrome Barrel, 3" Chamber, 2rd Capacity, Color Case Hardened Metal Finish, & Turkish Walnut Fixed Pistol Grip Stock, Right Hand (F Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme 12Ga 3" SxS AA-Grade Gloss Walnut Polished Nickel 20" Barrel (31482) This shotgun is brand new in the box. Barrels ring. enable_page_level_ads: true 1874 REMINGTON 12 GAUGE STAGE COACH SHOT GUN: Estimate $50 - $100 Oct 19, 2019 See Sold Price Sell a Similar Item Shipping, Payment & Auction Policies See Policy for Shipping Ships from Nazareth, PA, United States View Shipping, Payment & Auction Policies Dotta Auction Co., Inc TOP RATED Nazareth, PA, United States 132 Reviews 2,795 Followers While the 12 gauge is usually thought of as the standard in protective shotguns, the 20 can do just fine. 12 Gauge, This original 12 GA Remington 1889 Hammer Side by Side Shotgun has 30 browned tapered round twistbarrels with a bead front sight mounted on the matted rib. 165Products found. Plus, those barrels produced solid patterns at, and a bit beyond, typical self-defense distances. They compliment my edc Cimarron bad boy .44 revolver. Think of it this way the 12 gage is the same bore diameter as the 72 caliber Brown Bess musket of 1776, and the 20 gage is the same diameter as the 58 caliber Springfield and Enfield rifle-muskets of 1860. The action is extremely tight out of the box and even a little tough to open at first. The bore isvery good. All eight of the pellets from the 00 Buck rounds landed in the silhouette at 20 yards. Just like a hammerless shotgun. The double-barrel with two loads of buckshot was ideal for taking dangerous felons at gunpoint. Just because you are small (she is 50 110lb) their is no need to fear a 12 ga. I am by no means an expert, but my thinking the coach gun known as a blunderbuss was a mussel loaded black powder gun. Coach guns are formidable shotguns capable of defending the home. The coach gun was perhaps the original defensive gun for travelers in the United States. If youre recoil sensitive, consider a slip-on buttpad or a recoil pad for extended shooting sessions. This finely engraved gun contains a very unusual forend tip design not found on any high-grade 1882 known to date. Haha. At best it will penetrate only a few inches of gelatin and would probably be stopped by winter clothing Otherwise, its the same gun as the Hammer Coach. Another company that produces some great short double guns is Stoeger. The double-barrel is about as politically correct as a shotgun can be. Worked a homicide as a young police officer where a burglar was shot in the abdomen at close range with bird shot. Another reason may be the excessive weight. 340K subscribers Subscribe 70K views 14 years ago The Remington Model 1882 was produced in Illion, New York from 1882 to 1888. If he isnt running away after the skeet load she fires barrel 2. I am convinced these are original 29, Make offer! Yeah, but 20 inches is a great length, giving the gun excellent balance and a smooth swing. The other option for a hammerless gun would be an elastic shell holder on the buttstock, chambers empty, and practice quickly loading. GA Sales: 15825. A very romantic old west stagecoach gun to spice up any American collection offered in overall fair but cleaned and restored condition to put in the best light for display purposes only.
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